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one witness said the gunman targeted tsa agents asking people if they worked for tsa. 39 year old hernandez, leaving behind a wife and two children. dom, bring us up to speed from los angeles. >> reporter: hey, there, harris, we had a photoreleased of hernandez. we can show you what he looked like. he worked here in lax five years and he was a peyafrial inspector and stand in the checkpoint and looking for people behaving suspiciously. this is the scene in lax right now. this is terminal one. it is very, very quiet. and this is the baggage and arrival area. it is quiet this time. we do have a heightened police presence after yesterday. i have to say a distinct police presence. >> we have high profile and security strategy that we employ every day. and obviously today and foreseeable future, we'll continue a high profile at the curbes and ticketing area and anywhere on the campuses. >> we understand details about the injuries that cianciowa a. he may have been shot in the mouth and legs and it could be difficult for him to talk to the fbi. we are a few minutes away from the fbi update. >> wh
one witness said the gunman targeted tsa agents asking people if they worked for tsa. 39 year old hernandez, leaving behind a wife and two children. dom, bring us up to speed from los angeles. >> reporter: hey, there, harris, we had a photoreleased of hernandez. we can show you what he looked like. he worked here in lax five years and he was a peyafrial inspector and stand in the checkpoint and looking for people behaving suspiciously. this is the scene in lax right now. this is terminal...
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that tsa officer died. people who saw the terror unfold are now telling their stories. stephanie, what have you heard from people? >> reporter: the terrifying nateture of this, from all the people in the terminal, you can hear it. there was one man that came back today to pick up his blopgings after seeing the shooting take place. and our photogeorgist, tom larsson, come up with this man. his name is scott greene listen to what he says happened. >> the guy had his gun downwards on him and he shot him twice. wha . >> wlafs your first reaction? >> to get my family out of there. i was hoping that we need to get out of here. >> everybody was running through security at that time. at tsa, they were pulling through trying to get to the right and he was at the top of the escalator. >> what he believes now happens is that there was a silence after you've heard the first gunshots apt then he looked down and saw the shooter. he believes it was a time when the shooter was running up the stairs and that's when he saw him point the gun down at what we believe now was the lost tsa ag
that tsa officer died. people who saw the terror unfold are now telling their stories. stephanie, what have you heard from people? >> reporter: the terrifying nateture of this, from all the people in the terminal, you can hear it. there was one man that came back today to pick up his blopgings after seeing the shooting take place. and our photogeorgist, tom larsson, come up with this man. his name is scott greene listen to what he says happened. >> the guy had his gun downwards on...
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the federal authorities charges paul ciancia with in order the death of a tsa officer. people ran for their lives as the suspect opened fire with a rifle in terminal throw. it was the first death for tsa. the suspect is hospitalized tonight. countdown website shut down. glitch- plagued government website will go down this time on purpose. department of health and human services confirming that healthcare.gov will be down for an extended fix. memos from the obama administration showed six people managed to sign up the first day. (applause) >>> the doctors are in and we are continuing our conversation on what could be better in specifically with obama care coming in. dr. hall i will go down the other way. i will ask you to treat the problem. what do we need to do that we are not doing right? >> i think one of the biggest problems that we have tried to eat an elephant in one bite. it is impossible. we need to take mauler steps to fix the problem. we were talking earlier in the back, how about tackle health care for children? health care for all children. smaller percentage
the federal authorities charges paul ciancia with in order the death of a tsa officer. people ran for their lives as the suspect opened fire with a rifle in terminal throw. it was the first death for tsa. the suspect is hospitalized tonight. countdown website shut down. glitch- plagued government website will go down this time on purpose. department of health and human services confirming that healthcare.gov will be down for an extended fix. memos from the obama administration showed six people...
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>> it looked just like an airport employee, maybe tsa, i don't know. there's no police in here right now. they said they caught somebody. >> you never got a good description of the shooter, right? >> i didn't actually see the shooter. i could see sort of flashes or smoke. he was like obscured behind, because i was up on the mezzanine looking down and he was down in the lower area and i couldn't really -- i didn't actually see the person. >> did you see other people being detained who might have been running for cover like you were? >> a couple other guys who ran out onto the tarmac got the same and we were all herded off the tarmac along with all the employees, you know, the guys who secure the planes and all that and put into another terminal. >> all right, nick puh some dramatic moments, he was on the mezzanine there at terminal three, virgin america, i'm familiar with the area, you have the escalators that take you up, you have your check-in and the area below is near the ticketing area, so somebody could, you know, again, we don't know exactly what
>> it looked just like an airport employee, maybe tsa, i don't know. there's no police in here right now. they said they caught somebody. >> you never got a good description of the shooter, right? >> i didn't actually see the shooter. i could see sort of flashes or smoke. he was like obscured behind, because i was up on the mezzanine looking down and he was down in the lower area and i couldn't really -- i didn't actually see the person. >> did you see other people being...
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should tsa officers now be armed? i will ask california senator dianne feinstein. >>> also, are the 2016 battle lines being drawn? chris christie may be heading for a big win that could boost his white house chances as an influential center. it falls on hillary clinton to launch her own run. >>> and four years after political opposition fueled his pl
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i came to tsa to protect people. my mother works at tsa, too. she has been there for six years. i am a regular person. >> the family of the suspected gunman paul anthony is speaking out. they released a statement saying they are shocked and numb by the events. the suspect is still? the hospital in critical condition. here he is. la prosecutors say he could face the death penalty. >> a big mystery to tell you about. this happening in mississippi. a family of three vanishes after a car reck. atrea hill and their son jaden they were last seen driving in their car on friday. their suv was found overturned and burning in it a ditch. a wallet and other belongings they were found in a gas station dumpster. her mother says her daughter called after midnight it was on saturday saying she suddenly had to leave town for a couple of days. >> she said something came up. are you sure? everything okay? are you all right? she said, i am okay. >> she said shortly after that the phone went dead and she has not been heard from since. >> wheree know texan's coach ku suffered a mini stroke. he was l
i came to tsa to protect people. my mother works at tsa, too. she has been there for six years. i am a regular person. >> the family of the suspected gunman paul anthony is speaking out. they released a statement saying they are shocked and numb by the events. the suspect is still? the hospital in critical condition. here he is. la prosecutors say he could face the death penalty. >> a big mystery to tell you about. this happening in mississippi. a family of three vanishes after a...
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one less hassle in flying, which raises the obvious point, when are we going to get rid of the tsa? >> oh, joy. i get to listen to more cell phone conversations. >> there you go. >> this is a miss for brown university, which hosted police commissioner ray kelly this week. he went there to give a talk on pro-active policing. students booed and heckled him until he had to leave. he was not able to give his talk. there was a time when a university like brown was considered a liberal institution, which tolerance for ideas other than their own. those days are over. i think this is very sad. >> used to be liberal in the best sense of that word. and now it's the worst. james? >> i guess this is a hit. admiring the savvy of those political operators at goldman sachs who, of course, had a lot of alums and friends in washington during 2008, helped them get bailouts and now we find that on their payroll hillary clinton as well as mrs. ted cruz. so they've covered all the bases once again. very impressive. >> is there some irony aforethought in that? >> yes. shooting for irony. >> not such grea
one less hassle in flying, which raises the obvious point, when are we going to get rid of the tsa? >> oh, joy. i get to listen to more cell phone conversations. >> there you go. >> this is a miss for brown university, which hosted police commissioner ray kelly this week. he went there to give a talk on pro-active policing. students booed and heckled him until he had to leave. he was not able to give his talk. there was a time when a university like brown was considered a...
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there's a stair way below the tsa checkpoint here. that officer might have heard those shots, called in for backup and everything and you know, laid out the location then engaged the suspect right there at the checkpoint. he wouldn't have been able -- probably wouldn't have been able to run through the checkpoint down the corridor and into the passenger gates. >> i said millions spent on improving security, it was actually $1.6 billion investment. >> 1.6 billion. >> the officers moved, they were shifted from their assignments as you note in your article, to checkpoints in patrolling inside and outside of passenger terminals and in your piece you've written here, there of course is no guarantee even if the officers were at the check points, that this could have been avoided and you note an incident at lax back in july of 2002. >> there's the shooting in 2002. according to law enforcement, the shooter in that waited until the police were gone. but, yeah, no system is perfect. but, i mean, sure, the shooter could have taken out the offic
there's a stair way below the tsa checkpoint here. that officer might have heard those shots, called in for backup and everything and you know, laid out the location then engaged the suspect right there at the checkpoint. he wouldn't have been able -- probably wouldn't have been able to run through the checkpoint down the corridor and into the passenger gates. >> i said millions spent on improving security, it was actually $1.6 billion investment. >> 1.6 billion. >> the...
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and kill as tsa officer. a note found on him said he wanted to instill fear into their traitorous minds. so was he a terrorist? >>> plus -- >> whatever this video shows, the residents deserve to see it. >> this is the story when an poll xapology is not an apology. >>> and we just got done with halloween and the full throttle paint everything red and green nonstop ho, ho, ho rude salespeople, even more rude crowds, ugly sweaters, christmas retail is here. >> i could feel the christmas noose beginning to tighten. >> it's already tight. past the eggnog and let's go shopping for some deals. newsroom continues now. >>> good morning. i'm carol costello. thank you so much for joining me. caught on tape. smoking what appears to be a crack pipe. that's the very serious allegation toronto police are making against that city's mayor saying evidence they recovered in an investigation is, quote, consistent with reports of the mayor's drug abuse. now mayor ford is apologizing. sort of. >> i'm not perfect. i have made mista
and kill as tsa officer. a note found on him said he wanted to instill fear into their traitorous minds. so was he a terrorist? >>> plus -- >> whatever this video shows, the residents deserve to see it. >> this is the story when an poll xapology is not an apology. >>> and we just got done with halloween and the full throttle paint everything red and green nonstop ho, ho, ho rude salespeople, even more rude crowds, ugly sweaters, christmas retail is here. >> i...
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should tsa officers now be armed? i will ask california senator dianne feinstein. >>> also, are the 2016 battle lines being drawn? chris christie may be heading for a big win that could boost his white house chances as an influential center. it falls on hillary clinton to launch her own run. >>> and four years after political opposition fueled his plans to try them in new york city, attorney general eric holder says they would be on death row right now. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." >>> right now, we're learning much more about the bloody shooting rampage at los angeles airport that sent panicked passengers fleeing for their lives, left a tsa officer dead and three more victims wounded. now there's a brand new push by the union that represents tsa officers to give them law enforcement status, in other words, guns and arrest powers to protect themselves and the public. meantime, the suspect, who allegedly targeted the tsa, remains in critical condition. cnn's stephanie elam has been piecing together
should tsa officers now be armed? i will ask california senator dianne feinstein. >>> also, are the 2016 battle lines being drawn? chris christie may be heading for a big win that could boost his white house chances as an influential center. it falls on hillary clinton to launch her own run. >>> and four years after political opposition fueled his plans to try them in new york city, attorney general eric holder says they would be on death row right now. i'm wolf blitzer....
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one of the wounded is tsa officer tony griz buy. >> i was injured trying to get a man to a safe area. turned around and the gunman shot me twice. i was shot in the foot. >> and today attorney general eric holder saying more investigation is needed to determine the gunman's motive. and now to kenya, four somalia internationals now charged in connection with with a vicious attack on the mall. four suspects appearing in court pleading not guilty. police have detained dozens of people since the four-day siege. unclear how many actually have been arrested. 67 people were killed in that horrible september attack. and more fallout from obama care, some hospitals are now opting out. some hospitals only accepting a few insurance plans offered through the exchanges and rejecting the rest are. that is because many insurers are now offering hospitals less cash for services rendered. and that is tonight's speed read. >> and now to the rising costs of obama care. americans across the nation seeing ago hike in insurance premiums according to a new manhattan insubstitute study, premiums are spiking.
one of the wounded is tsa officer tony griz buy. >> i was injured trying to get a man to a safe area. turned around and the gunman shot me twice. i was shot in the foot. >> and today attorney general eric holder saying more investigation is needed to determine the gunman's motive. and now to kenya, four somalia internationals now charged in connection with with a vicious attack on the mall. four suspects appearing in court pleading not guilty. police have detained dozens of people...
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one has died, a tsa agent, and the gunman is injured as well. i'm going to have my photographer swing to the right. people from terminal three are finally being let out. there are a couple thousand people who were in there and stranded in a safe room. some are walking by right as we're speaking at this moment. now, we did hear from some witnesses who did get out earlier today. and when they came out, they were talking about all sorts of different things happening inside, people running, hitting the ground in fear. hiding behind counters in restaurants. running down pathway s onto planes and onto the tarmac. listen to what one witness who saw what happened, what he said when the gunman walked in and opened fire. >> when the first shot came, there was loud screaming and people running. a group of us laid down on the floor, and then the suspect quite calmly walked upstairs and through the checkpoint and fired a few more shots, and then he just walked around the corner. >> now, the president was also briefed about this today. as you might imagine, a
one has died, a tsa agent, and the gunman is injured as well. i'm going to have my photographer swing to the right. people from terminal three are finally being let out. there are a couple thousand people who were in there and stranded in a safe room. some are walking by right as we're speaking at this moment. now, we did hear from some witnesses who did get out earlier today. and when they came out, they were talking about all sorts of different things happening inside, people running, hitting...
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there is at least one other tsa employee who was wound by gunshot. there are additional injuries, some of which seem to be potential evasion injuries, where they may have injured themselves trying to get away. at this point, we have one terminal shut down and we will have it shut down for a while while we continue the investigation. forensics team are in there from the fbi as well as the lapd. their work is long and methodical and they will take their time on this to be complete in their investigation. we do have a up the line. i would like to pass out. that an fbi tip line. the number is 1-888-226-8443. if you have, i would seek the public's assistance. if they have information which would be beneficial to this investigation and we ask that they please keep it to that. we would like to know about it'll we do have that line staffed right now. it is available and we are ready to run those leads. additional information, i can you want all the facts. we cannot provide those to you at this point. i see some of you smiling. we're not going to give -- >> w
there is at least one other tsa employee who was wound by gunshot. there are additional injuries, some of which seem to be potential evasion injuries, where they may have injured themselves trying to get away. at this point, we have one terminal shut down and we will have it shut down for a while while we continue the investigation. forensics team are in there from the fbi as well as the lapd. their work is long and methodical and they will take their time on this to be complete in their...
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there were reports that he asked if people were tsa. he killed one tsa worker and wounded as many as three others before he himself was shot in the chest and taken into custody. he's reported to be in critical condition in the hospital. law enforcement sources tell the l.a. times that authorities found a note next to the shooter in which he expressed, quote, his disappointment with the government. nbc news reporting that the shooter sent a suicidal text to his family before entering the airport where he apparently started shooting. again, though, the shooter is alive in critical condition and in custody. l.a.x. is a mess in terms of flight cancellations and delays and thousands of passengers getting stranded. this is a story we'll be following through the night as we learn more. please keep watching this space for news. >>> here's the background, when george w. bush picked harriet players, he was showing his trademark loyalty. he was also particularly happy to have found a woman he trusted for that job since the seat she was going to be
there were reports that he asked if people were tsa. he killed one tsa worker and wounded as many as three others before he himself was shot in the chest and taken into custody. he's reported to be in critical condition in the hospital. law enforcement sources tell the l.a. times that authorities found a note next to the shooter in which he expressed, quote, his disappointment with the government. nbc news reporting that the shooter sent a suicidal text to his family before entering the airport...
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the tsa is working on that today. they are making a visible presence at terminal three, where they are going to uh -- where the gun attack happened. on then side of the terminal it is cordoned off and they are going through it forensically, inch by inch and looking at the shells fired and seeing how he was able to get so far and deep into the terminal. the tsa agents say they were actually on him within a matter of seconds. that's what we heard from the authorities yesterday. they say without an intervention it could have been a lot worse. take a listen what the chief fbi investigator had to say about that. >> there was additional rounds this gunman had. the fact these officers were able to neutralize the threat as they did, there were more than a hundred rounds that could have killed everybody in that terminal. >> my apologies. that was the mayor of los angeles. that was him describing all of the rounds without a shadow of a doubt it could have been worse. apparently in the note the gunman was saying he didn't want t
the tsa is working on that today. they are making a visible presence at terminal three, where they are going to uh -- where the gun attack happened. on then side of the terminal it is cordoned off and they are going through it forensically, inch by inch and looking at the shells fired and seeing how he was able to get so far and deep into the terminal. the tsa agents say they were actually on him within a matter of seconds. that's what we heard from the authorities yesterday. they say without...
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police say ciancia fatally shot a tsa officer and injured two other officers and a teacher. >> i was injured while helping an elder man trying to get to a safe area. i turned around and there was a gunman and he shot me twice. >> police shot ciancia in the face and he is still unable to communicate, but his condition is improving. his family says they are shocked and numbed by the tragedy. >>> well, election day is finally here, and after months of hearing from the candidates, it's now up to you, the voters. here's what's happening around the country. virginia has arguably the most watched gubernatorial race. democrat terry mcauliffe holds a slight lead over republican attorney general ken cuccinelli. the gop has tried to make the race a referendum on obama care. >>> bill de blasio could become the first klatt elected mayor of new york city since 1989. polls give him sizable leads over republican joe loada. >>> new jersey governor chris christie is hoping for a second term. democrat barbara buono has so far failed to dent christie's popularity with independents. >>> detroit voters pi
police say ciancia fatally shot a tsa officer and injured two other officers and a teacher. >> i was injured while helping an elder man trying to get to a safe area. i turned around and there was a gunman and he shot me twice. >> police shot ciancia in the face and he is still unable to communicate, but his condition is improving. his family says they are shocked and numbed by the tragedy. >>> well, election day is finally here, and after months of hearing from the...
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>> tsa was at the bottom of the stairs. so from where the screening station is, it is back a few ways, probably about, i don't know, ten yards or so from the stairs. so if you are at the rear of the screening station, you can't see to the bottom of the stairs. >> okay. cy want to read something from you. this is tsa's response. i want to get your reaction. here is what they say. each airport authority along with its state and local law enforcement partners is responsible for securing airport property. commercial airports in the united states are required to have an approved airport security program asp. these plans are written and drafted by each airport local authority and approved by the tsa. it is up to each airport authority and their state and local law enforcement partners to follow the plan that's been implemented. so that was a response to a reque question that we had. >> first i'm glad to get an actual response from mr. pistol. we met with him a year ago about these concerns and he was pretty dismissive about them.
>> tsa was at the bottom of the stairs. so from where the screening station is, it is back a few ways, probably about, i don't know, ten yards or so from the stairs. so if you are at the rear of the screening station, you can't see to the bottom of the stairs. >> okay. cy want to read something from you. this is tsa's response. i want to get your reaction. here is what they say. each airport authority along with its state and local law enforcement partners is responsible for...
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three people were shot and two tsa workers and one passion injury. one -- passenger. brian rooney, what more have we learned? some of the details that came out of the press conference. he is not able to talk yet. what his mental condition was before the shooting. did he have new diagnosed problems that anyone knew of where did the gun come from and how did he get it did anyone know he had it. there are answered questions and more unanswered questions and the fbi said they will build a full profile of cianca as this goss goes along. >> the other thing who took him to the airport. they say he was dropped off at the airport. >> he had friends and room-mates here. i would count that as a neutral fact. not necessarily the person that dropped him off may have just dropped him off at the airport and may have known nothing about this. his friends told reporters that they saw him thursday and he seemed fine. >> i wouldn't read the drop off one way or another yet. >> the big question you said his motive. the fbi saying was carrying a note that said "he hoped to instill fear int
three people were shot and two tsa workers and one passion injury. one -- passenger. brian rooney, what more have we learned? some of the details that came out of the press conference. he is not able to talk yet. what his mental condition was before the shooting. did he have new diagnosed problems that anyone knew of where did the gun come from and how did he get it did anyone know he had it. there are answered questions and more unanswered questions and the fbi said they will build a full...
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the training that tsa goes through how much does that match what tsa responded to today. for the most part they responded really well. they deal with a checkpoint and on for the most part. everything before that where the shooting began, is a public area and really controlled by law enforcement. and so far from what we see, everyone responded appropriately. sesomeone walked into an airport and started shooting. >> one person passed away and this could have been far, far worse. it was a a according to plan. >> he walked in with a bag and took out a gun and opened fire. >> a lot of officers are learned about behavioral manners. people that have travel being ay and that may come out as well. and there training i in antiterror. it continued past the security check point. and the dramatic video of people racing through the terminal. is there any instruction or agents in law enforcement are given in this scenario to make sure that they don't wound innocent people in the crossfire? >> when thi there is gunfire pee are going to be scattering. they are going to be running for thei
the training that tsa goes through how much does that match what tsa responded to today. for the most part they responded really well. they deal with a checkpoint and on for the most part. everything before that where the shooting began, is a public area and really controlled by law enforcement. and so far from what we see, everyone responded appropriately. sesomeone walked into an airport and started shooting. >> one person passed away and this could have been far, far worse. it was a a...
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killing a tsa agent. investigators say he moved to california only 18 months ago and bought three guns. his roommate dropped him off at the airport on friday, but had no idea what was about to happen. police say he walked inside the terminal, in terminal three with an assault rifle, plenty of ammunition and a signed letter saying he wanted to kill as many tsa officers as possible. he is still in critical condition, unable to communicate. >>> another surprising first from pope francis. the vatican plans to ask catholics what they think about sensitive issues like contraception, same-sex marriage and divorce. bishops around the world will conduct a poll ahead of a key vatican meeting on the family next october. other questions cover the possibility of divorced catholics remarrying or receiving communion and the number of young people who live together before marriage. >>> not what you might expect from michelle pfeiffer. she told a london magazine that she was part of a cult as a young actress in hollywood.
killing a tsa agent. investigators say he moved to california only 18 months ago and bought three guns. his roommate dropped him off at the airport on friday, but had no idea what was about to happen. police say he walked inside the terminal, in terminal three with an assault rifle, plenty of ammunition and a signed letter saying he wanted to kill as many tsa officers as possible. he is still in critical condition, unable to communicate. >>> another surprising first from pope francis....
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speaking anonymously to the media, describing the tsa agents who was killed. you were saying earlier in the headlines that he is the first tsa agent to be killed in the line of duty since the agency was set up after 9/11. he's named as gerardo hernandez. worked at the airport for five years. father of two. described by co-workers as a great guy. it really has come as a shock to the tsa. flags across the city are flown at half mast. he's asking fellow police officers to wear black band as a sign of respect. across the city, people very surprised about this attack. it's only the second attack in ten years we've seen at lax. uma, back to you. >> just a dramatic story. dominick, thank you very much. turning now to other news. one of the world's most wanted terrorist with a $5 million bounty is reportedly dead. they're saying the leader of the pakistani taliban has been killed in a u.s. drone strike. u.s. officials are not confirming that just yet. he's believed to be the mastermind of a deadly suicide attack at an afghan cia base and the times square bombing. his
speaking anonymously to the media, describing the tsa agents who was killed. you were saying earlier in the headlines that he is the first tsa agent to be killed in the line of duty since the agency was set up after 9/11. he's named as gerardo hernandez. worked at the airport for five years. father of two. described by co-workers as a great guy. it really has come as a shock to the tsa. flags across the city are flown at half mast. he's asking fellow police officers to wear black band as a sign...
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do tsa agents need to be armed? our justice correspondent pete williams will be here in a little while to give us an update and fresh report on all of that. but first, the obama care debate. the healthcare.gov was actually off site for repairs over the weekend. they said saturday the glitches are, quote, just at this present time of the iceberg. this week, as you might have remembered, the president traveled to boston to compare the rough start of obama care to what he called the slow start of the massachusetts health care plan. but he also praised his 2012 opponent mitt romney, who in 2006, as governor of massachusetts, signed that state's health care reform legislation into law. >> i've always believed that when he was governor here in massachusetts, he did the right thing on health care. if it was hard doing it just in one state, it's harder doing it in all 50 states. >> that is proving to be the case. and the 2012 republican presidential nominee, former governor mitt romney joins me exclusively this morning. gov
do tsa agents need to be armed? our justice correspondent pete williams will be here in a little while to give us an update and fresh report on all of that. but first, the obama care debate. the healthcare.gov was actually off site for repairs over the weekend. they said saturday the glitches are, quote, just at this present time of the iceberg. this week, as you might have remembered, the president traveled to boston to compare the rough start of obama care to what he called the slow start of...
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all the shooting victims were tsa employees. investigators say he seemed to be singling them out and even asked some people he encountered in the airport if they worked for the tsa. brian? >> pete williams with the latest on what we know from our d.c. bureau. pete, thanks. >>> bill bratton is with us, former chief of the lapd and the nypd. these days a security consultant and nbc news analyst. sadly, it seems we only get to talk to you after another episode of gun violence. this is your former turf. a place you were charged with protecting. that ring of tsa, commissioner, does not have weapons traditionally. you don't think the answer will be to weaponize concentric circles as you work your way into the airport? >> there will probably be a call to do just that. i would advocate against that trying to train 50,000 people to handle firearms in a very contained situation. better to leave it so the highly trained police personnel such as those that went into action today. >> as we said, l.a.x. on a friday morning, 9:30, busy place.
all the shooting victims were tsa employees. investigators say he seemed to be singling them out and even asked some people he encountered in the airport if they worked for the tsa. brian? >> pete williams with the latest on what we know from our d.c. bureau. pete, thanks. >>> bill bratton is with us, former chief of the lapd and the nypd. these days a security consultant and nbc news analyst. sadly, it seems we only get to talk to you after another episode of gun violence. this...
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we know tsa agents aren't allowed to carry guns. but the shooter obviously had an assault weapon and there were law enforcement who came in and shot him. do you have any recollection of how many shots you heard? >> i would say between 10 and 15, although i didn't keep count. though there were quite a few shots. >> that sounds like what other people are saying, too. >> they moved. because the lounge is as i said on the second floor. and the first two or three shots were sounded like they were coming down the hallway into the wide open round place where the waiting area is for the boarding gates. and then there was a flurry of shots that took place right where the boarding area is. that's where the majority of the shots they heard were fired. >> all right. well, tim, thank you very much. we appreciate your taking the time. i know it's been an incredibly long and stressful day. so thank you for talking to us. i want to bring jeff beede in now, former counterterrorism officer. he helped design the security we use at airports. jeff i bel
we know tsa agents aren't allowed to carry guns. but the shooter obviously had an assault weapon and there were law enforcement who came in and shot him. do you have any recollection of how many shots you heard? >> i would say between 10 and 15, although i didn't keep count. though there were quite a few shots. >> that sounds like what other people are saying, too. >> they moved. because the lounge is as i said on the second floor. and the first two or three shots were sounded...
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guard and apparently shooting two other tsa guards. we know this happened around 9:30, terminal 3. we also believe we've got the photo there of the 0.223 million&t 15 semiautomatic that he pulled out from a duffel bag we understand and then started to open fire. of course, you know, he had that note inside that duffel bag, that's what the federal -- that's what the feds were telling us yesterday. and what they can't talk to him for now, as i was saying they are looking into this background. this is what they're saying about that. >> we are still examining that. that is an extensive process, and that will take time. we do know, based on the complaints, that he -- and based on the evidence we've reviewed to date, that he targeted specifically tsa officers. his intent was very, very clear in his note. >> yes, absolutely. and in that note apparently he called the tsa treacherous, and that he was very much out to get them. well, the police very much out in force here at l.a.x. today. the question is, could this have actually been averted? t
guard and apparently shooting two other tsa guards. we know this happened around 9:30, terminal 3. we also believe we've got the photo there of the 0.223 million&t 15 semiautomatic that he pulled out from a duffel bag we understand and then started to open fire. of course, you know, he had that note inside that duffel bag, that's what the federal -- that's what the feds were telling us yesterday. and what they can't talk to him for now, as i was saying they are looking into this background....
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some back, but it's a long process. >> one tsa dead. multiple other tsa people injure. do we have any sense of who is in the hospital for example, what kind of shape they're? how they're classified? >> we don't. we know there was one news conference from ucla medical center where they had three people injured, one of them critically, a couple of them gunshot wounds. but we don't know the specifics yet. a lot of what is going on is privacy concerns as they notify the family and get permission to release some of the information. even the numbers, the airport authority said earlier today seven people injured, six transported to the hospitals. we'll see if we get an update on that in the news conference later this hour. >> many thanks. let's get right to jane wells. she joins us live from l.a.x. good evening, jane. >> reporter: hey, larry. traffic slowly getting back to normal. dozens of flights canceled. hundreds of departures and arrivals delayed. terminal 3 where the shooting happened remains closed as well as the parking lot. airlines operating out of that terminal movi
some back, but it's a long process. >> one tsa dead. multiple other tsa people injure. do we have any sense of who is in the hospital for example, what kind of shape they're? how they're classified? >> we don't. we know there was one news conference from ucla medical center where they had three people injured, one of them critically, a couple of them gunshot wounds. but we don't know the specifics yet. a lot of what is going on is privacy concerns as they notify the family and get...
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the tsa is obviously unarmed. we also know that los angeles moved to kind of the rooving patrols throughout the airport as opposed to having for sure one armed guard at a security check point. do you see anything worth rethinking right now? >> i talked to the director of tsa john pistol yesterday. we talked about a review of the policies at airports. every airport is a little bit different but the coordination with the local police is key because remember, tsa officers are not armed. it the local police that provide the perimeter security, if you will, that's a more soft target outside the check points and so, what we want to do is conduct and i want to work with the director of tsa to lack at how are we coordinating with locals at the airports of security, police officers to see is there something we can do better or differently? i will commend the officers, though, for a very quick and effective response. as you point out, he had multiple rounds that could have killed so many more people. we're fortunate that th
the tsa is obviously unarmed. we also know that los angeles moved to kind of the rooving patrols throughout the airport as opposed to having for sure one armed guard at a security check point. do you see anything worth rethinking right now? >> i talked to the director of tsa john pistol yesterday. we talked about a review of the policies at airports. every airport is a little bit different but the coordination with the local police is key because remember, tsa officers are not armed. it...
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the tsa obviously is unarmed. we also know that los angeles had moved to roving patrols throughout the airport as opposed to having one armed guard at a security checkpoint. do you see anything worth rethinking now? >> i talked to the director just pistol today. we talked about the reality of airports. every airport is different. but the coordination with local police is always key because tsa officers are not armed. the local police provide the perimeter security that's more of a soft target outside the checkpoints. so what we want to do is conduct -- i want to work with the director of tsa to look at how we coordinating with the locals at the airports, the security, police officers, to see if there's something we can do better or differently. i will commend the officers, though, for a very quick and effective response. as you point out, he had multiple rounds that could have killed so many more people. we were fortunate that did not happen, but it was unfortunate that an officer was killed. >> i've seen reports
the tsa obviously is unarmed. we also know that los angeles had moved to roving patrols throughout the airport as opposed to having one armed guard at a security checkpoint. do you see anything worth rethinking now? >> i talked to the director just pistol today. we talked about the reality of airports. every airport is different. but the coordination with local police is always key because tsa officers are not armed. the local police provide the perimeter security that's more of a soft...
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should tsa officers, for example, be armed. we went out and asked people a simple question: how old is the oldest person you've known? we gave people a sticker and had them show us. we learned a lot of us have known someone who's lived well into their 90s. and that's a great thing. but even though we're living longer, one thing that hasn't changed much is the official retirement age. ♪ the question is how do you make sure you have the money you need to enjoy all of these years. ♪ ♪ hooking up the country whelping business run ♪ to enjoy all of these years. ♪ trains! they haul everything, safely and on time. ♪ tracks! they connect the factories built along the lines. and that means jobs, lots of people, making lots and lots of things. let's get your business rolling now, everybody sing. ♪ norfolk southern what's your function? ♪ ♪ helping this big country move ahead as one ♪ ♪ norfolk southern how's that function? ♪ . right now the markets are mixed. the dow jones industrials up five points. not much move
should tsa officers, for example, be armed. we went out and asked people a simple question: how old is the oldest person you've known? we gave people a sticker and had them show us. we learned a lot of us have known someone who's lived well into their 90s. and that's a great thing. but even though we're living longer, one thing that hasn't changed much is the official retirement age. ♪ the question is how do you make sure you have the money you need to enjoy all of these years. ♪ ♪...
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as we have seen, first, they thought it was a tsa agent who was trying to kill other tsa agents. so a lot of our problems aren't coming from terrorism, yes, that's a huge concern, but so are neighbors and coworkers that have become unhimpged, become unstable or disgruntled. i think an industry that has so much stress is not the place to add -- >> you would know as a former flight attendant. you point out, your husband is a pilot. you are all for security. let me read this, this is part of your cnn.com opinion piece that jumped out at me in this post-9/11 era. you said i was never a fan of armed pilots. another flight attendant might have felt insured, but when i walked into a cockpit to find a pilot with a gun on his lap, i was rattled. i had met the guy before, had no reason to distrust him, but even the thought of an incident was enough to question my safety. is it about people or is it about guns? >> it's a little bit of both, when you're adding -- you can screen people, but you don't know what's going to happen later in their lives or in the work place, as we have seen a lot
as we have seen, first, they thought it was a tsa agent who was trying to kill other tsa agents. so a lot of our problems aren't coming from terrorism, yes, that's a huge concern, but so are neighbors and coworkers that have become unhimpged, become unstable or disgruntled. i think an industry that has so much stress is not the place to add -- >> you would know as a former flight attendant. you point out, your husband is a pilot. you are all for security. let me read this, this is part of...
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police say he was allegedly on a mission to kill asp tsa agents as possible. he is now in custody at a hospital where he was taken after being wounded in a shootout with airport police. dominic dinotoli joins us from the scene with the latest on the investigation. >> reporter: that investigation beginning very much in earnest today. we can show you the moments of chaos in which tsa agents and local police ordered passen germs to throw themselves to the floor. and then they actually ordered them to get out of that terminal. fortunately, one of the passen germs was able to capture this on their phone and get it to tmz. "los angeles times" reporting, quoting an official saying that a note was found on cianci saying he was targeting tsa officials and, quote, pigs. indicating he was obviously after the police here. the associated press also reporting the fbi wants to look into his background. they want to see precisely what the motivation was. i was speaking to a police officer yesterday. the police often certain was telling me, look, he might have had a run-in at
police say he was allegedly on a mission to kill asp tsa agents as possible. he is now in custody at a hospital where he was taken after being wounded in a shootout with airport police. dominic dinotoli joins us from the scene with the latest on the investigation. >> reporter: that investigation beginning very much in earnest today. we can show you the moments of chaos in which tsa agents and local police ordered passen germs to throw themselves to the floor. and then they actually...
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he shot the 39-year-old tsa agent hernandez. he left the area until he realized hernandez was still alive. >> the defendant is then alleged to have begun walking away from the wounded tsa officer going up an escalator and then coming back down that escalator to return and shoot the wounded officer again. >> anna hernandez, the widow of the first tsa agent killed on that job in that agency's 12-year existence, spoke briefly to reporters about her late husband yesterday. she said he came to the u.s. from el salvador more than 20 years ago when he was 15 and that he loved going to work at los angeles international airport. >> he was always excited to go to work and enjoy the interaction with the passengers at l.a.x. he was a joyful person, always smiling. he took pride in his duty for the american public and for the tsa mission. >> inside the shooter's duffle bag we now know there were several hundred rounds of ammunition and a note that said he made a conscious decisioy to. back to you in new york. >> all right. peter doocy live f
he shot the 39-year-old tsa agent hernandez. he left the area until he realized hernandez was still alive. >> the defendant is then alleged to have begun walking away from the wounded tsa officer going up an escalator and then coming back down that escalator to return and shoot the wounded officer again. >> anna hernandez, the widow of the first tsa agent killed on that job in that agency's 12-year existence, spoke briefly to reporters about her late husband yesterday. she said he...
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but you cannot arm all the tsa. because when you arm a federal officer, it puts them in a different rank. you have to requalify on the firearms. a lot of my employees were armed. you have to requalify every 30 days. it's very expensive. it's very difficult, but the tsa needs to be protected with armed personnel and i think it has to be officers. i think it has to be police. >> can i ask you something real quickly. because what about the actual physicality of the airports? i notice los angeles, it's not a long distance between the curb and when you get to security. same thing at laguardia, it's, like, security is right there. but there are other bigger airports where you have to go a longer way, there are more steps, more layers. is that something that may possibly we should be looking in to? >> yes. but it's very difficult, because the airports that are newer like hartsfield, like denver, they're set up with many barriers to entry and you have a few main portals and they're easier to secure and less expensive to sec
but you cannot arm all the tsa. because when you arm a federal officer, it puts them in a different rank. you have to requalify on the firearms. a lot of my employees were armed. you have to requalify every 30 days. it's very expensive. it's very difficult, but the tsa needs to be protected with armed personnel and i think it has to be officers. i think it has to be police. >> can i ask you something real quickly. because what about the actual physicality of the airports? i notice los...
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he was a tsa agent. in fact, he was the first tsa agent ever shot and killed in the line of duty. he was also the father of two. at the same time we are learning more about the gunman. police say 23-year-old paul ciansio pulled out a rifle and started shooting. >> shooting was on the left-hand side from where we heard the gun shot. it was horrible, you know. it was vietnam all again. >> authorities say it could have been worse. that's because he was found with more than 100 rounds left when he was finally taken into custody. witnesses think he was targeting tsa agents. they say he walked up to them, asked them if they were working for tsa. when he was taken into custody he had a had written note that said he wanted to harm tsa agents. he is from new jersey. apparently earlier in the week he texted his brother in new jersey saying he wanted to try to kill himself. authorities looking into that. he was shot before taken into custody, but he is still alive and they are trying to figure out exactly what his status is and what led him into l.a.x. yesterday to start shooting so many peo
he was a tsa agent. in fact, he was the first tsa agent ever shot and killed in the line of duty. he was also the father of two. at the same time we are learning more about the gunman. police say 23-year-old paul ciansio pulled out a rifle and started shooting. >> shooting was on the left-hand side from where we heard the gun shot. it was horrible, you know. it was vietnam all again. >> authorities say it could have been worse. that's because he was found with more than 100 rounds...
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a tsa agent as they mentioned in this news conference has died. they confirmed that now and others were injured in this incident which shut down lax largely this morning. this is a picture that's new to us. outside gate 36 in terminal 3. it pretty much tells the story. here is the weapon, we believe, the picture would indicate. that's the weapon that's believed to have been used there. a cop standing around and a lot of blood there on the floor as it was a bloody scene. we had reports earlier today from authorities that actually from witnesses that they went running out on to the tarmac and just to try to escape all of this. and, greta, it was certainly a horrible day. we also have new video as they continue with housekeeping matters. some new-to-us video from inside as it was all happening. here, look at this. >> everybody. [shouting] come on, you guys. >> go, go. [siren] >> as it's been described to us the terminal was -- you can see it's from tmz the web site which obtained this and given us permission to use this at tmz.com. we are told that t
a tsa agent as they mentioned in this news conference has died. they confirmed that now and others were injured in this incident which shut down lax largely this morning. this is a picture that's new to us. outside gate 36 in terminal 3. it pretty much tells the story. here is the weapon, we believe, the picture would indicate. that's the weapon that's believed to have been used there. a cop standing around and a lot of blood there on the floor as it was a bloody scene. we had reports earlier...
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. >> topping the head lea leans l, the man who killed a tsa agent at los angeles international airport has been charged with first degree murder and committing violence. he can face the death penalty. we'll have a live report later this hour. >>> john kerry wrapped up a visit to egypt, the first since morsi was ousted. morsi's removal led the u.s. to suspend hundreds of millions of aide earmarked for egypt. >> i want to make it clear the united states will continue to provide support that directly benefits the egyptian people in health, scholarships and private sector development. >>> virginia's democratic gubernatorial candidate terry mcauliffe has brought out all the rock stars. hillary clinton was out his behalf two weeks ago. the following weekend, bill clinton. tomorrow joe biden, and today the president hit the trail. >> i hope you guys are fired up on tuesday because we cannot have people staying home when so much is at stake. i hope you're ready to fight for terry because he's ready to fight for you for the next four years. >> republican candidate ken cuccinelli meanwhile has r
. >> topping the head lea leans l, the man who killed a tsa agent at los angeles international airport has been charged with first degree murder and committing violence. he can face the death penalty. we'll have a live report later this hour. >>> john kerry wrapped up a visit to egypt, the first since morsi was ousted. morsi's removal led the u.s. to suspend hundreds of millions of aide earmarked for egypt. >> i want to make it clear the united states will continue to...
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as with all tsa workers, hernandez was unarmed. police say the suspect paul ciancia had a note that said he planned to kill multiple tsa officers and wanted to, quote, instill fear in their traitorous minds. joining me msnbc correspondent pete williams. what are we learning? what's the latest on this alleged gunman? >> this is not where one of those investigations where every 10 minutes brings some other revelation. this is a long slow go to try to figure out the answer to the key question, which is why did he do it. there's nothing that his friends or roommates say this they thought he was an adherent to this extremist anti-government view expressed in this handwritten later, which is a general rant of the usual stuff about the federal reserve and federal government and the currencies and one world order and all of that. for some reason a specific attack on the tsa which he said was vilding his constitutional rights. he says in the letter if the tsa is going to treat all americans as potential terrorists it becomes a self-fulfilli
as with all tsa workers, hernandez was unarmed. police say the suspect paul ciancia had a note that said he planned to kill multiple tsa officers and wanted to, quote, instill fear in their traitorous minds. joining me msnbc correspondent pete williams. what are we learning? what's the latest on this alleged gunman? >> this is not where one of those investigations where every 10 minutes brings some other revelation. this is a long slow go to try to figure out the answer to the key...
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and second, tsa officers are not sworn officer officials. they do not have arrest authority, they are not trained to use firearms. they could be, but that would represent a major change in their mission. all of that said, the union that represents tsa employees says airports need to provide more armed security at the screening checkpoints, david. >> all right, pete reams here in our newsroom. thanks very much. >>> i want to get back to talking about mitt romney and obama care. he had very tough criticism for president obama just a few moments ago. listen. >> and whether you like the model of obama care or not, the fact that the president sold it on a basis that was not true has undermined the foundation of his second term. i think it's rotting it away. and i think the only way he can rebuild credibility is to work with republicans and democrats and try to rebuild a foundation. >> rebuild a foundation is what he says is the job now for president obama. here is his approval rating. our poll last week with the wall street journal has the presid
and second, tsa officers are not sworn officer officials. they do not have arrest authority, they are not trained to use firearms. they could be, but that would represent a major change in their mission. all of that said, the union that represents tsa employees says airports need to provide more armed security at the screening checkpoints, david. >> all right, pete reams here in our newsroom. thanks very much. >>> i want to get back to talking about mitt romney and obama care. he...
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the tsa is investigating that case. >> live in denver, thanks. now a warning going out to thousands of patients that their personal information may be part of a huge tax scam. it's the latest example of a booming type of fraud, one that could cost a -- all of us a lot of money. most of the victims were patients of the orange county health department in florida. investigators came across a hand written list of names, patients who were targets of the scam. patients' personal info was storm, which the scammers used to submit fraudulent tax returns. when the government sent out refund checks, investigators say the crooks pocketed the cash. this is nothing new in the sunshine statement florida has the highest rate of this type of scam, but it seems a refund fraud is becoming a bigger threat for all of us. tax scammers last year tried to steal $6.5 billion from up suspecting victims, according to the irs. phil keating is live. do prosecutors -- florida health department workers. do they know if prosecutors were in on this or what's the story? >> report
the tsa is investigating that case. >> live in denver, thanks. now a warning going out to thousands of patients that their personal information may be part of a huge tax scam. it's the latest example of a booming type of fraud, one that could cost a -- all of us a lot of money. most of the victims were patients of the orange county health department in florida. investigators came across a hand written list of names, patients who were targets of the scam. patients' personal info was storm,...